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New Russian Nuclear Sub Catches U.S. By Surprise...
Geostrategy-direct.com ^ | Bill Gretz

Posted on 11/28/2001 6:23:29 AM PST by RCW2001

Russia’s newest nuclear-powered submarine, the Gepard, will enter service next month. The super-quiet submarine has been identified by U.S. intelligence officials as an advanced Akula II-class attack submarine.
    The deployment of the Gepard surprised U.S. intelligence agencies which had not expected to see the new submarine launched for several years.
    The submarine is quieter than U.S. Los Angeles-class attack submarines, giving it greater survivability.
    The submarine will join the Russian Northern Fleet in early December, according to U.S. officials.

New submarine
Russia's new super-quiet Gepard submarine..

    The submarine is the 14th Akula II submarine, has a maximum speed of 33 knots and can dive to depths of up to 1,800 feet. It will be outfitted with strategic nuclear cruise missiles.
    The ship demonstrates Russia’s continuing drive to develope sea-based strategic systems, the officials said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armsrace; coldwar2
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1 posted on 11/28/2001 6:23:29 AM PST by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
yup - let's put all of our trust & faith in putin - he is America's newest best friend... :)
2 posted on 11/28/2001 6:26:49 AM PST by krodriguesdc
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To: RCW2001
Russia’s newest nuclear-powered submarine, the Gepard

Let's just call it The Dick.

3 posted on 11/28/2001 6:29:45 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: RCW2001
You pol Ruski?
4 posted on 11/28/2001 6:34:04 AM PST by JohnMac
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To: Mr. Bird
The government again doing a fine job protecting us. This story will be all over the network news, of course.
5 posted on 11/28/2001 6:36:29 AM PST by Tymesup
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To: krodriguesdc
deployment of the Gepard surprised U.S. intelligence agencies

ANOTHER fine example of our "intelligence gathering" capabilities (or rather, lack thereof)...

6 posted on 11/28/2001 6:37:06 AM PST by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
Bump
7 posted on 11/28/2001 6:40:30 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: RCW2001
OTOH, Russia has a tendency to try to do things on the cheap. The sub, in the log run, may not be all it's cracked up to be. Plus, can they deploy these in any great number within the next 10 years??
8 posted on 11/28/2001 6:40:50 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: krodriguesdc
Of course, as you indicated, we can't put our trust and faith in Putin or anyone else, but we do want the Russians on our side--and not on the other side. The job's tough, and a lot's at stake. It's a good thing we've got Bush in the White House.
9 posted on 11/28/2001 6:41:40 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: RCW2001
The new sub will be a perfect complement to the KURSK class.
11 posted on 11/28/2001 6:45:50 AM PST by hut1hut2
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To: Savage Beast
Of course, as you indicated, we can't put our trust and faith in Putin or anyone else, but we do want the Russians on our side--and not on the other side. The job's tough, and a lot's at stake. It's a good thing we've got Bush in the White House.

yeah - GW is not stupid, and he speaks and writes English well :)

12 posted on 11/28/2001 6:47:46 AM PST by krodriguesdc
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To: Savage Beast
It's a good thing we've got Bush in the White House.

Why so he can call the most repessive regime in the world an ally? What exactly has bush done to stop china a nation that will not allow people to express their faith in public from being in the WTO? We could have stopped that but did not. Is money more important then freedom? Would you sell your kids into slavehood for a few extra dollars?
13 posted on 11/28/2001 6:51:35 AM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: krodriguesdc
Before we going crying the sky is falling,lets make sure this isnt another Mig-25.If you recall in the 70s we were told that the Foxbat was the most feared fighter/interceptor out there.When Belenko defected in 75?76?with one,we took apart,ran it,took it apart,ran it again,and came to the conclusion that it was a complete peice of junk.If you dont remember this story,Im sure you remember the Kursk,which was supposed to be the best around.It sunk.
14 posted on 11/28/2001 6:53:11 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
Of course not, but if it takes two-steps-forward-and-one-step-backward to bring Russia, India, and China into the Western World, it's well worth the shuffle. And right now ol' Georgie Bush is doing the Texas Two-Step like Fred Astair.
15 posted on 11/28/2001 7:00:19 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: cardinal4
Before we going crying the sky is falling,lets make sure this isnt another Mig-25.If you recall in the 70s we were told that the Foxbat was the most feared fighter/interceptor out there.When Belenko defected in 75?76?with one,we took apart,ran it,took it apart,ran it again,and came to the conclusion that it was a complete peice of junk.If you dont remember this story,Im sure you remember the Kursk,which was supposed to be the best around.It sunk.

yeah let's wait to cry until russia surprises us with a nuke!

IMHO that is...

16 posted on 11/28/2001 7:01:37 AM PST by krodriguesdc
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To: Mr. Bird
Yes, according to Jane's Ships the Gepard (English spelling "Gephardt") is named for a Soviet mole who has served the Russians exceptionally well in the US Congress.
17 posted on 11/28/2001 7:02:38 AM PST by hauerf
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To: innocentbystander
Good point, but Bill Clinton wasn't running the show in those years. Unless I miss my guess (and I really doubt it), we lost the last eight years of black weapons development.
18 posted on 11/28/2001 7:02:56 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: RCW2001
here's the attidtude we should have with the ruskies...

"my friends we begin bombing russia in 5 minutes!"

Ronald Wilson Reagan

19 posted on 11/28/2001 7:03:51 AM PST by krodriguesdc
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